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== '''GB-B240-100''' ==
 
== '''GB-B240-100''' ==
This is a black 1 amp 100Mbps injector. Its not possible to obtain 1000Mbps port speed with a GB-B240-100, pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be connected on the LAN side of the injector.
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This is a black 100-240v AC to 24v DC 1 amp 100Mbps injector. Its not possible to obtain 1000Mbps port speed with a GB-B240-100, pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be connected on the LAN side of the injector.
   
 
[[File:GB-B240-100side_CASE.jpg|472x472px]] [[File:GB-B240-100side A.jpg|border|frameless|486x486px]] [[File:GB-B240-100side B.jpg|border|frameless|304x304px]]
 
[[File:GB-B240-100side_CASE.jpg|472x472px]] [[File:GB-B240-100side A.jpg|border|frameless|486x486px]] [[File:GB-B240-100side B.jpg|border|frameless|304x304px]]
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[[File:Gb 050 case.jpg|border|432x432px]][[File:Gb-a240-050 top.jpg|468x468px]][[File:Gb-a240-050 bot.jpg|386x386px]]
 
[[File:Gb 050 case.jpg|border|432x432px]][[File:Gb-a240-050 top.jpg|468x468px]][[File:Gb-a240-050 bot.jpg|386x386px]]
   
This is a black .5 amp 100Mbps injector. [https://www.arednmesh.org/content/poe-reset-circuit-ubnt Note the reset] switch. Pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be connected on the LAN side of the injector.
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This is a black 100-240v AC to 24v DC .5 amp 100Mbps injector. [https://www.arednmesh.org/content/poe-reset-circuit-ubnt Note the reset] switch. Pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be connected on the LAN side of the injector.
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== '''Mikrotik stock injector''' ==
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This is a pig tail style Injector for [https://planetechusa.com/power-over-ethernet-poe-demystifying-mode-a-and-mode-b/ mode B]. You need your own source of power. Pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be present in the LAN of the injector. This Injector is only for 100Mbps.
   
 
== '''Don't forget the white model''' ==
 
== '''Don't forget the white model''' ==
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You might ask... How do devices running at 1000Mbps Ethernet ports receive PoE? The [https://en.mag-tek.com.tw/products_detail/180.htm G24102HKG chip] is how! [https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/921604/MAGTEK/G24102MK/1 Data sheet] [https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/143/EL817-G-26528.pdf 26528.pdf.] [[File:G24102HKG SP1.jpg|border|75x75px]]
 
You might ask... How do devices running at 1000Mbps Ethernet ports receive PoE? The [https://en.mag-tek.com.tw/products_detail/180.htm G24102HKG chip] is how! [https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/921604/MAGTEK/G24102MK/1 Data sheet] [https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/143/EL817-G-26528.pdf 26528.pdf.] [[File:G24102HKG SP1.jpg|border|75x75px]]
   
This is a gray 1 amp 1000Mbps injector. Power is sent over all 4 pairs with data. The injector are found in the box of AirFiberX and AC-Gen2 devices. Its a Passive 1000Mbps PoE injector as well.
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This is a gray 100-240v AC to 24v DC 1 amp 1000Mbps injector. Power is sent over all 4 pairs with data. The injector are found in the box of AirFiberX and AC-Gen2 devices. Its a Passive 1000Mbps PoE injector as well.
   
 
[[File:GB-H240-100-4_case.jpg|border|498x498px]][[File:GB-H240-100-4_pcb_top.jpg|border|529x529px]][[File:GB-H240-100-4 side B.jpg|border|510x510px]]
 
[[File:GB-H240-100-4_case.jpg|border|498x498px]][[File:GB-H240-100-4_pcb_top.jpg|border|529x529px]][[File:GB-H240-100-4 side B.jpg|border|510x510px]]
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[[File:POE-INJ-1000-WT.png|border|737x737px]]
 
[[File:POE-INJ-1000-WT.png|border|737x737px]]
   
== Caution! Connecting any passive or active 48v DC PoE source to a passive device will damage a passive device! ==
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== '''Caution! Connecting any passive or active 48v DC PoE source to a passive device will damage a passive device!''' ==
 
[https://www.ednasia.com/teardown-of-ubiquitis-24-24w-g-a-poe-adapter-without-a-peer/ Great article that parallel my interest with POE.]
 
[https://www.ednasia.com/teardown-of-ubiquitis-24-24w-g-a-poe-adapter-without-a-peer/ Great article that parallel my interest with POE.]
   
   
== Nanoswitch N-SW ==
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== '''Nanoswitch N-SW''' ==
 
The [https://dl.ubnt.com/qsg/N-SW/N-SW_EN.html N-SW] is marketed as a 2 pair passive PoE powered, unmanned 4 port 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet RJ45 switch. The device is intend for outdoor use. Thanks to W2GMD for discovering that the N-SW accepts 4 pair passive 24v DC on the input port. The N-SW is allows one to "breakout" devices from a single cat5e cable. We commonly used them to run 2 or 3 devices off of a single cat5e run to the top of a tower. This is where we start to run in to the problems...
 
The [https://dl.ubnt.com/qsg/N-SW/N-SW_EN.html N-SW] is marketed as a 2 pair passive PoE powered, unmanned 4 port 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet RJ45 switch. The device is intend for outdoor use. Thanks to W2GMD for discovering that the N-SW accepts 4 pair passive 24v DC on the input port. The N-SW is allows one to "breakout" devices from a single cat5e cable. We commonly used them to run 2 or 3 devices off of a single cat5e run to the top of a tower. This is where we start to run in to the problems...
   
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The fuse limits are independent from the input voltage 9-24v on a hAP! As result of not using an external injector to supply power to the N-SW with 2 breakout devices, the devices down stream of the hAP's port 5 will brown-out causing the devices to reboot!
 
The fuse limits are independent from the input voltage 9-24v on a hAP! As result of not using an external injector to supply power to the N-SW with 2 breakout devices, the devices down stream of the hAP's port 5 will brown-out causing the devices to reboot!
   
== NOTE! How Ubiquity devices react when supplied insufficient input power! ==
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== '''NOTE! How Ubiquity devices react when supplied insufficient input power!''' ==
   
 
Device get can get stuck in reboot loops, if every thing is just right! As the load increases --> The supply voltage falls --> current limits trips --> Device reboots. It turns out that Airfiber is very sensitive! AirMax equipment too!
 
Device get can get stuck in reboot loops, if every thing is just right! As the load increases --> The supply voltage falls --> current limits trips --> Device reboots. It turns out that Airfiber is very sensitive! AirMax equipment too!
   
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== '''Examples! How to use a N-SW''' ==
 
[[File:Af config MDARC.png|border|486x486px]][[File:N-sw on one poe port.png|border|541x541px]][[File:N-SW with injector .png|border|591x591px]][[File:N-SW AF .png|border|576x576px]]
 
[[File:Af config MDARC.png|border|486x486px]][[File:N-sw on one poe port.png|border|541x541px]][[File:N-SW with injector .png|border|591x591px]][[File:N-SW AF .png|border|576x576px]]
   
   
   
 
The nanoswitch accept 4pair passive poe and 2pair passive poe for power. Then we have 3 types of devices being powered... one type runs 2 pair passive 24v poe and runs at 1Gb port speed. Two a device that runs on 4 pair passive 24v poe runs at 1Gb, and the most common 2 pair passive 24v poe running at 100Mbs.  1Gb devices have power isolation on all 4pairs but may only pull from 2 pairs! Ive found that for an AirFiber3x device to reach full tx power levels while sharing a Nanoswitch with another 2 pair device the Nanoswitch needs to be feed 4pair passive 24v power.
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== EP-R6 ==
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10/100/1000
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== EdgePoint class switches ==
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[https://dl.ui.com/datasheets/edgemax/EdgeSwitch_XP_DS.pdf EdgePoint]switches support 100Mbs and 1000Mbs
   
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ES-5XP
The nanoswitch accept 4pair passive poe and 2pair passive poe for power. Then we have 3 types of devices being powered... one type runs 2 pair passive 24v poe and runs at 1Gb port speed. Two a device that runs on 4 pair passive 24v poe runs at 1Gb, and the most common 2 pair passive 24v poe running at 100Mb.  1Gb devices have power isolation on all 4pairs but may only pull from 2 pairs! Ive found that for an AirFiber3x device to reach full tx power levels while sharing a Nanoswitch with another 2 pair device the Nanoswitch needs to be feed 4pair passive 24v power.
 

Revision as of 13:17, 7 September 2022

This Wiki dosn't describe the way Ubiquity deploys PoE This wiki WILL!

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AirMax class equipment is equipped with mode B power over the T568B wiring standard for 8wire / 4pair Cat 5e utp cable.

CAT6 twisted pair.jpg

All AirMax and GL.iNet class devices have 100Mbps Ethernet ports. They receive 24V DC power via the Ethernet port. The DC voltage is injected on "spare pairs" unused by 100Mbps Ethernet. A fixed DC voltage is injected (positive voltage to pins 4- 5) and (negative voltage to pins 7-8.

Poe b mode passive.png

GB-B240-100

This is a black 100-240v AC to 24v DC 1 amp 100Mbps injector. Its not possible to obtain 1000Mbps port speed with a GB-B240-100, pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be connected on the LAN side of the injector.

GB-B240-100side CASE.jpg GB-B240-100side A.jpg GB-B240-100side B.jpg

GB-A240-050

Gb 050 case.jpgGb-a240-050 top.jpgGb-a240-050 bot.jpg

This is a black 100-240v AC to 24v DC .5 amp 100Mbps injector. Note the reset switch. Pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be connected on the LAN side of the injector.

Mikrotik stock injector

This is a pig tail style Injector for mode B. You need your own source of power. Pins 4- 5 and pins 7-8 have been observe to not be present in the LAN of the injector. This Injector is only for 100Mbps.

Don't forget the white model

This is a white .5 amp 1000Mbps injector.

GB-H240-100-4

You might ask... How do devices running at 1000Mbps Ethernet ports receive PoE? The G24102HKG chip is how! Data sheet 26528.pdf. G24102HKG SP1.jpg

This is a gray 100-240v AC to 24v DC 1 amp 1000Mbps injector. Power is sent over all 4 pairs with data. The injector are found in the box of AirFiberX and AC-Gen2 devices. Its a Passive 1000Mbps PoE injector as well.

GB-H240-100-4 case.jpgGB-H240-100-4 pcb top.jpgGB-H240-100-4 side B.jpg

Tycon Power Systems POE-INJ-1000-WT Gigabit PoE Injector/Splitter 4 Pair

This is a Gigabit PoE Injector. This injector breaks in or out power, all 4 pairs are isolating allowing for 1000Mbps Ethernet speeds. Unlike the Ubiquity injectors you must supply a power source.

POE-INJ-1000-WT.png

Caution! Connecting any passive or active 48v DC PoE source to a passive device will damage a passive device!

Great article that parallel my interest with POE.


Nanoswitch N-SW

The N-SW is marketed as a 2 pair passive PoE powered, unmanned 4 port 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet RJ45 switch. The device is intend for outdoor use. Thanks to W2GMD for discovering that the N-SW accepts 4 pair passive 24v DC on the input port. The N-SW is allows one to "breakout" devices from a single cat5e cable. We commonly used them to run 2 or 3 devices off of a single cat5e run to the top of a tower. This is where we start to run in to the problems...


The following diagram describes how to properly power a N-SW, off of a hAP. The hAP wasn't designed to deliver more than 500mA of current at the port.

HAP ac Power.png

The fuse limits are independent from the input voltage 9-24v on a hAP! As result of not using an external injector to supply power to the N-SW with 2 breakout devices, the devices down stream of the hAP's port 5 will brown-out causing the devices to reboot!

NOTE! How Ubiquity devices react when supplied insufficient input power!

Device get can get stuck in reboot loops, if every thing is just right! As the load increases --> The supply voltage falls --> current limits trips --> Device reboots. It turns out that Airfiber is very sensitive! AirMax equipment too!

Examples! How to use a N-SW

Af config MDARC.pngN-sw on one poe port.pngN-SW with injector .pngN-SW AF .png


The nanoswitch accept 4pair passive poe and 2pair passive poe for power. Then we have 3 types of devices being powered... one type runs 2 pair passive 24v poe and runs at 1Gb port speed. Two a device that runs on 4 pair passive 24v poe runs at 1Gb, and the most common 2 pair passive 24v poe running at 100Mbs.  1Gb devices have power isolation on all 4pairs but may only pull from 2 pairs! Ive found that for an AirFiber3x device to reach full tx power levels while sharing a Nanoswitch with another 2 pair device the Nanoswitch needs to be feed 4pair passive 24v power.

EP-R6

10/100/1000

EdgePoint class switches

EdgePointswitches support 100Mbs and 1000Mbs

ES-5XP