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== Batteries ==
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== Solar Load Estimates ==
 
Estimates of what it would take to achieve a year-round solar autonomy, for different continuous loads. The model assumes "typical" SF weather conditions ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tJ-tQex7pu4SUx5vmLtDblHJkNIo922s6NCYq-UrDx8/edit?usp=sharing Link to model]).
   
 
'''Note'''
=== Off The Shelf ===
 
   
 
A good portion of the capacity is just to meet the worst few days of the year, so if you are willing to sacrifice those, the system can be quite a bit smaller and still get you 95%+ annual up time.
* [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0921SB3LJ/ Portable Mini UPS Battery Backup and PoE] - an easy to carry PoE and battery combo for testing nodes in the field
 
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=== Estimates ===
 
Below all assume 26V LiFePO4 battery (using 80% of capacity), somewhat conservative, but not a lot of margin:
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* 7W (cont.): 18A-h battery, 90W solar, 5A charge controller
 
* 10W (cont.): 25A-h battery, 125W solar, 5A charge controller
 
* 15W (cont.): 38A-h battery, 190W solar, 10A charge controller
 
* 20W (cont.): 50A-h battery, 250W solar, 10A charge controller
 
* 40W (cont.): 100A-h battery, 500W solar, 20A charge controller
 
* 50W (cont.): 125A-h battery, 625W solar, 25A charge controller
 
* 60W (cont.): 150A-h battery, 750W solar, 30A charge controller
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== Batteries ==
   
 
=== Just Batteries ===
 
=== Just Batteries ===
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* [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NTMGV28?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Ampere Time 25.6v 100Ah LiFePO4 pack] [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZ53R3S7?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Fire proof bag!]
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* [https://www.amazon.com/LiFePO4-Battery-Perfect-Applications-Warranty/dp/B084DB36KW?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1 LiTime 12v 100Ah LiFePO4 pack]
   
 
* [https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Bioenno+Power Bioenno Power] - LiFePO4 batteries which are lightweight but support many more charging cycles compared to normal lithium batteries.
 
* [https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Bioenno+Power Bioenno Power] - LiFePO4 batteries which are lightweight but support many more charging cycles compared to normal lithium batteries.
 
* [https://www.talentcell.com/lifepo4-battery/12v-24ah/lf4040.html TalentCell] - LiFePO4 batteries being evaluated at the [[Sunol Ridge]] site.
 
* [https://www.talentcell.com/lifepo4-battery/12v-24ah/lf4040.html TalentCell] - LiFePO4 batteries being evaluated at the [[Sunol Ridge]] site.
   
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== Battery Charge Controllers ==
== Chargers ==
 
 
* ALGcom DC UPS 24V 10A https://www.ispsupplies.com/ALGcom-FN-2400-10-ST
   
* ALGcom DC UPS 24V 10A
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* ALGcom DC UPS 48V 10A Manageable SNMP https://www.ispsupplies.com/ALGcom-FN-4800-10-SNMP
   
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== Uninterruptible Power Supply Controllers ==
https://www.ispsupplies.com/ALGcom-FN-2400-10-ST
 
 
* EdgePower Supply, 24V 72W https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-accessories/products/ep-24v-72w
   
 
* EdgePower Supply, 54V 150W https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-accessories/products/edgepower-54v-150w
* ALGcom DC UPS 48V 10A Manageable SNMP
 
 
* [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0921SB3LJ/ Portable Mini UPS Battery Backup and PoE] - an easy to carry PoE and battery combo for testing nodes in the field
   
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== Solar Charge Controllers ==
https://www.ispsupplies.com/ALGcom-FN-4800-10-SNMP
 
   
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=== Solar Charge Controllers ===
* EdgePower Supply, 24V 72W
 
   
 
* [https://solar.ui.com Ubiquiti] provide solar charges specifically designed for use with their PoE Wifi products. Batteries and solar are bought separately.
https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-accessories/products/ep-24v-72w
 
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=== Off The Shelf ALL-in-ONE Systems ===
* EdgePower Supply, 54V 150W
 
 
https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-accessories/products/edgepower-54v-150w
 
 
== Solar ==
 
 
=== Off The Shelf ===
 
   
 
* [https://www.jackery.com/products/jackery-explorer-160-solarsaga-60w-solar-generator Jackery] offer a range of all-in-one portable battery and charging packs. Can be used with optional solar panels.
 
* [https://www.jackery.com/products/jackery-explorer-160-solarsaga-60w-solar-generator Jackery] offer a range of all-in-one portable battery and charging packs. Can be used with optional solar panels.
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* [https://www.tyconsystems.com/tyconsolar Tycon Systems]
* [https://solar.ui.com Ubiquiti] provide solar charges specifically designed for use with their PoE Wifi products. Batteries and solar are bought separately.
 
   
=== Uninterrupted Self Sustaining Solar Power ===
 
[[USSP]]
 
   
== Solar Load Estimates ==
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== Project Systems ==
Estimates of what it would take to achieve a year-round solar autonomy, for different continuous loads. The model assumes "typical" SF weather conditions ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tJ-tQex7pu4SUx5vmLtDblHJkNIo922s6NCYq-UrDx8/edit?usp=sharing Link to model]).
 
   
 
=== Uninterrupted Self Sustaining Solar Power by KJ6DZB [[USSP|(USSP)]] ===
'''Note'''
 
   
 
=== Evans Hall Roof ===
A good portion of the capacity is just to meet the worst few days of the year, so if you are willing to sacrifice those, the system can be quite a bit smaller and still get you 95%+ annual up time.
 
 
=== Estimates ===
 
Below all assume 26V LiFePO4 battery (using 80% of capacity), somewhat conservative, but not a lot of margin:
 
 
* 7W (cont.): 18A-h battery, 90W solar, 5A charge controller
 
* 10W (cont.): 25A-h battery, 125W solar, 5A charge controller
 
* 15W (cont.): 38A-h battery, 190W solar, 10A charge controller
 
* 20W (cont.): 50A-h battery, 250W solar, 10A charge controller
 
* 40W (cont.): 100A-h battery, 500W solar, 20A charge controller
 
* 50W (cont.): 125A-h battery, 625W solar, 25A charge controller
 
* 60W (cont.): 150A-h battery, 750W solar, 30A charge controller
 

Revision as of 20:51, 17 July 2023

Solar Load Estimates

Estimates of what it would take to achieve a year-round solar autonomy, for different continuous loads. The model assumes "typical" SF weather conditions (Link to model).

Note

A good portion of the capacity is just to meet the worst few days of the year, so if you are willing to sacrifice those, the system can be quite a bit smaller and still get you 95%+ annual up time.

Estimates

Below all assume 26V LiFePO4 battery (using 80% of capacity), somewhat conservative, but not a lot of margin:

  • 7W (cont.): 18A-h battery, 90W solar, 5A charge controller
  • 10W (cont.): 25A-h battery, 125W solar, 5A charge controller
  • 15W (cont.): 38A-h battery, 190W solar, 10A charge controller
  • 20W (cont.): 50A-h battery, 250W solar, 10A charge controller
  • 40W (cont.): 100A-h battery, 500W solar, 20A charge controller
  • 50W (cont.): 125A-h battery, 625W solar, 25A charge controller
  • 60W (cont.): 150A-h battery, 750W solar, 30A charge controller

Batteries

Just Batteries

  • Bioenno Power - LiFePO4 batteries which are lightweight but support many more charging cycles compared to normal lithium batteries.
  • TalentCell - LiFePO4 batteries being evaluated at the Sunol Ridge site.

Battery Charge Controllers

Uninterruptible Power Supply Controllers

Solar Charge Controllers

Solar Charge Controllers

  • Ubiquiti provide solar charges specifically designed for use with their PoE Wifi products. Batteries and solar are bought separately.

Off The Shelf ALL-in-ONE Systems

  • Jackery offer a range of all-in-one portable battery and charging packs. Can be used with optional solar panels.
  • Tycon Systems


Project Systems

Uninterrupted Self Sustaining Solar Power by KJ6DZB (USSP)

Evans Hall Roof